T/Q/R: We are researching the Orphan Asylum's moving from Prince Street to 5 Avenue to Kingsbridge because we want to prove that these moves were needed in shaping the future of the institution and how the change would allow it to better serve the needs of the kids.
Yellow Team: Welcome back! A couple of quick things about your T/Q/R. Are you necessarily examining how the change of location shaped "the future of the kids"? Think about focusing more on the institution, itself, and how the change would allow it to better serve the needs of the kids. It's a subtle shift of focus, but an important one. The rationale statement is usually of wider scope, examining how the changes experienced by the Asylum exemplify broader trends and/or changes. What, for example, might the move to the Bronx have to say about the "proper" environment for the upbringing of children? Think about any links to broader issues/themes.
Chuck
Yellow Team: Kenysia, Paola, Kadeem:
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Roman Catholic Orphanage Asylum
(Sisters of Charity)
Sister Teresa Alacoque Nagle has written to a friend about a group she perceives as the brilliant trio. The three boys’ part of this group was Joseph Gorayeb, Peter Masterson, and George Bull. This section of reading informs you about each of the boys. Joesph was a studious boy and very prayerful with a very earnest personality. Joesph learned various languages and was translating the Greek testament into English. Sister Teresa believed that if god were to spare him, the province would be able to get good literary work from him before he dies. Besides Joesph there was talk of two other boys who could by ready to join the noviate in august if that year, (what is novitiate? GOOD QUESTION!!) One of the boys was anticipated to be a favorite with the fathers and it was inevitable that he would make his mark in history. George had become a great philosopher of his society. What makes these boys so special? Why talk about them? Is it to show those who came out of the orphanage as great people who made great contributions to society?
What does it tell you about the Roman Catholic Orphans Asylum? If these three young men were residents of the Asylum (Were they?), what do their accomplishments tell you about the training, upbringing, and education they received at the Asylum?
One day a young man in the seminar course at Fordham said to George one day that he was going to study an institution child because he believed that they were very different from other children. This in turn made George very upset. He questioned whether the young man had ever been to a institution and if not ho can he make an assumption that the kids there are different from others. They young man admitted to his ignorance. As Bull was walking away from the situation another student stopped him. This student apologized for eavesdropping but this person wanted to let him know that when he was a little boy at Kingsbridge George was his hero (who is this person.) What would make this person think that kids from the asylum where different from kids who lived with their families? Why does this mysterious person consider George a hero? In fact, there was a so called brilliant trio. What made them so brilliant? How was life at the orphanage, how has it shaped the people they have become? Does living in the asylum have a great impact on the chaacter of a child and in the makings of the person they will become as an adult?
Kenysia Carter
The new home of the Roman Catholic Orphan Asylum was one of the most historical sites in the vicinity. This took place December 1898.During the world war , the government needed property that could be of service. Kingsbridge was chosen as the property being used. The R.C.O.A. was going to be used during the war.Infact, there was aearly November the children left Kingsbridge. The war was over months later and the children didn't have to leavesocalled brilliant trio. What made them so brilliant?How was life at the orphanage, how has it shaped the peopletheyhave become?Does living in the asylum have a great impact on the chacter of a child and in the makings of the person they will become as an adult?went back to Kingsbridge and were home again. (why did the gov't want to use Kingsbrigde's property?)
kenysia
The Roman Catholic Orphan Asylum moved to Kingsbridge because they wanted the children to have a more expanded and wider place to live in and also feel comfortable in the asylum.
The asylum was first located at Prince Street. It was a wooden building, and year after year it increasingly became overcrowded year after year.There was a grant made in order to make the proper accommodations for the asylum to best suit the needs of the children [either the asylum would move or expand.]the grant contained certain conditions which if failed to be followed through upon would cause a reversion of the ground to the common council. The most important condition of the grant was one which required the erection of the land in 3 years from the date of the grant. The plan which was previously approved by the mayor.
2 years went by without the adoption of any measures to fulfill the plans previously discussed. This was due to no fault of the society or Board of Managers. One year remained which seemed to lack the necessities capable for executing the condition specified by the grant. To get the work going a large sum of money was required which would not be hard to obtain because the asylum would be able to depend on the contribution of the Catholic community.
On October 1, 1851 the boys asylum was opened with Mother Elizabeth Boyle in charge. In 2 years Mother Jerome employed 15 sisters to the new asylum. The 5th avenue buildings were made of bricks and the building itself opened in 1826. The building was capable of holding 150 + orphans.
No one thought of transportation of transportation for the 200 orphans. Therefore Mother Elizabeth and the children walked from Prince Street to 5th avenue and 51st street (their new home).
An important part of child care for the asylum was the Boland Farm Experiment. The Boland Trade school opened in 1894. The asylum opened up an elementary school which layed the foundation for outstanding achievement for students. The trade school was functioning well for 3 years then the property of the asylum except the Boland building was sold for commercial interests. The trade school closed a little before the asylum's removal.
The asylum was inappropriate and sold and with the money they bought a new asylum at Kingsbridge. The buildings opened in 1901. Proof of how well equipped the building was would be the fact that during the first world war the buildings ere offered to be used for government assistance. The government considered this offe3r because they were in great need of a hospital. The government found that of all the institutions they looked at, the orphanage was the best suited for what they need.
If the orphanage was suitable for the government to use during the war you can assume that it was overly suitable for the kids.
Paola:
The Sisters of Charity found the Roman Catholic Orphan Asylum. Elizabeth Ann Seton established and organized the Sisters of Charity. The first Roman Catholic Orphan Asylum was a small wooden building in Prince Street. The second Roman Catholic Orphan Asylum was made in 1826 which was built for the 150 children that lived with the Sisters, it was made out of bricks. I'm guessing that was when they moved to 5th Avenue. The last building was made in 1830 which erected to house the half orphans (children with only one parent alive) in care of the sisters.
I found this in http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ote/orphans/sistersofcharityp1.htm?cj=1&o_xid=0002375064&o_lid=0002375064
In the Orphan Asylum in Prince Street only intended to have 250 children but they had 268 in 1856. The year following they had 280. In 1849 they had 317 and in 1850 they had 317. This was overcrowded that they called a meeting with the friends of the Orphan Asylum in Prince Street which concerned the interests and prospects of the institution. Three to Four years earlier the Board of Managers, in consequence of the crowded state of the asylum resolved to represent their situation to the cities authorities and asked for them to give them some land so they can build another Orphan Asylum for those kids that need a home. In July 1846, the Common Council granted to give them a block from 4th to 5th avenue and from 51st street to 52nd street. One half would be for fee and the other half would be for lease during their pleasure for a nominal sum annually. Mother Elizabeth walked with the Orphans from Prince Street to their new home in Fifth Avenue and Fifty-first Street because nobody though about providing transportation.
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T/Q/R: We are researching the Orphan Asylum's moving from Prince Street to 5 Avenue to Kingsbridge because we want to prove that these moves were needed in shaping the future of the institution and how the change would allow it to better serve the needs of the kids.
Yellow Team: Welcome back! A couple of quick things about your T/Q/R. Are you necessarily examining how the change of location shaped "the future of the kids"? Think about focusing more on the institution, itself, and how the change would allow it to better serve the needs of the kids. It's a subtle shift of focus, but an important one. The rationale statement is usually of wider scope, examining how the changes experienced by the Asylum exemplify broader trends and/or changes. What, for example, might the move to the Bronx have to say about the "proper" environment for the upbringing of children? Think about any links to broader issues/themes.
Chuck
Yellow Team: Kenysia, Paola, Kadeem:
Kadeem_Williams_Web.jpgRoman Catholic Orphanage Asylum
(Sisters of Charity)
Sister Teresa Alacoque Nagle has written to a friend about a group she perceives as the brilliant trio. The three boys’ part of this group was Joseph Gorayeb, Peter Masterson, and George Bull. This section of reading informs you about each of the boys. Joesph was a studious boy and very prayerful with a very earnest personality. Joesph learned various languages and was translating the Greek testament into English. Sister Teresa believed that if god were to spare him, the province would be able to get good literary work from him before he dies. Besides Joesph there was talk of two other boys who could by ready to join the noviate in august if that year, (what is novitiate? GOOD QUESTION!!) One of the boys was anticipated to be a favorite with the fathers and it was inevitable that he would make his mark in history. George had become a great philosopher of his society.
What makes these boys so special? Why talk about them? Is it to show those who came out of the orphanage as great people who made great contributions to society?
What does it tell you about the Roman Catholic Orphans Asylum? If these three young men were residents of the Asylum (Were they?), what do their accomplishments tell you about the training, upbringing, and education they received at the Asylum?
One day a young man in the seminar course at Fordham said to George one day that he was going to study an institution child because he believed that they were very different from other children. This in turn made George very upset. He questioned whether the young man had ever been to a institution and if not ho can he make an assumption that the kids there are different from others. They young man admitted to his ignorance. As Bull was walking away from the situation another student stopped him. This student apologized for eavesdropping but this person wanted to let him know that when he was a little boy at Kingsbridge George was his hero (who is this person.)
What would make this person think that kids from the asylum where different from kids who lived with their families?
Why does this mysterious person consider George a hero? In fact, there was a so called brilliant trio. What made them so brilliant?
How was life at the orphanage, how has it shaped the people they have become?
Does living in the asylum have a great impact on the chaacter of a child and in the makings of the person they will become as an adult?
Kenysia Carter
The new home of the Roman Catholic Orphan Asylum was one of the most historical sites in the vicinity. This took place December 1898. During the world war , the government needed property that could be of service. Kingsbridge was chosen as the property being used. The R.C.O.A. was going to be used during the war. In fact, there was a early November the children left Kingsbridge. The war was over months later and the children didn't have to leave so called brilliant trio. What made them so brilliant? How was life at the orphanage, how has it shaped the people they have become? Does living in the asylum have a great impact on the chacter of a child and in the makings of the person they will become as an adult? went back to Kingsbridge and were home again. (why did the gov't want to use Kingsbrigde's property?)
kenysia
The Roman Catholic Orphan Asylum moved to Kingsbridge because they wanted the children to have a more expanded and wider place to live in and also feel comfortable in the asylum.
The asylum was first located at Prince Street. It was a wooden building, and year after year it increasingly became overcrowded year after year.There was a grant made in order to make the proper accommodations for the asylum to best suit the needs of the children [either the asylum would move or expand.]the grant contained certain conditions which if failed to be followed through upon would cause a reversion of the ground to the common council. The most important condition of the grant was one which required the erection of the land in 3 years from the date of the grant. The plan which was previously approved by the mayor.
2 years went by without the adoption of any measures to fulfill the plans previously discussed. This was due to no fault of the society or Board of Managers. One year remained which seemed to lack the necessities capable for executing the condition specified by the grant. To get the work going a large sum of money was required which would not be hard to obtain because the asylum would be able to depend on the contribution of the Catholic community.
On October 1, 1851 the boys asylum was opened with Mother Elizabeth Boyle in charge. In 2 years Mother Jerome employed 15 sisters to the new asylum. The 5th avenue buildings were made of bricks and the building itself opened in 1826. The building was capable of holding 150 + orphans.
No one thought of transportation of transportation for the 200 orphans. Therefore Mother Elizabeth and the children walked from Prince Street to 5th avenue and 51st street (their new home).
An important part of child care for the asylum was the Boland Farm Experiment. The Boland Trade school opened in 1894. The asylum opened up an elementary school which layed the foundation for outstanding achievement for students. The trade school was functioning well for 3 years then the property of the asylum except the Boland building was sold for commercial interests. The trade school closed a little before the asylum's removal.
The asylum was inappropriate and sold and with the money they bought a new asylum at Kingsbridge. The buildings opened in 1901. Proof of how well equipped the building was would be the fact that during the first world war the buildings ere offered to be used for government assistance. The government considered this offe3r because they were in great need of a hospital. The government found that of all the institutions they looked at, the orphanage was the best suited for what they need.
If the orphanage was suitable for the government to use during the war you can assume that it was overly suitable for the kids.
Paola:
The Sisters of Charity found the Roman Catholic Orphan Asylum. Elizabeth Ann Seton established and organized the Sisters of Charity. The first Roman Catholic Orphan Asylum was a small wooden building in Prince Street. The second Roman Catholic Orphan Asylum was made in 1826 which was built for the 150 children that lived with the Sisters, it was made out of bricks. I'm guessing that was when they moved to 5th Avenue. The last building was made in 1830 which erected to house the half orphans (children with only one parent alive) in care of the sisters.
I found this in http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ote/orphans/sistersofcharityp1.htm?cj=1&o_xid=0002375064&o_lid=0002375064
In the Orphan Asylum in Prince Street only intended to have 250 children but they had 268 in 1856. The year following they had 280. In 1849 they had 317 and in 1850 they had 317. This was overcrowded that they called a meeting with the friends of the Orphan Asylum in Prince Street which concerned the interests and prospects of the institution. Three to Four years earlier the Board of Managers, in consequence of the crowded state of the asylum resolved to represent their situation to the cities authorities and asked for them to give them some land so they can build another Orphan Asylum for those kids that need a home. In July 1846, the Common Council granted to give them a block from 4th to 5th avenue and from 51st street to 52nd street. One half would be for fee and the other half would be for lease during their pleasure for a nominal sum annually. Mother Elizabeth walked with the Orphans from Prince Street to their new home in Fifth Avenue and Fifty-first Street because nobody though about providing transportation.